Of Mice and Men

Austin Carlile is known as one of the lead front man in this scene and for good reason. He's been the front man of scene kings Attack Attack as well as returning to his current band Of Mice and Men after leaving the band for a short amount of time. While his road may be a rocky one through the music industry, it was a pleasure to sit down with him for the third interview Music Remedy has done with Of Mice!

The circumstance for this interview couldn't be better as the band just spent their first headlining summer on the Warped Tour despite only having two full lengths under their belt. While the deets haven't been announced just yet for that record, the band is fresh off of their US run with August Burns Red and have announced their new headlining run which includes playing a capacity of over a thousand here in Boston in February. They have consistently played to huge enthusiastic audiences and are sure to put out an insane third record now that the line up is concrete!

You'€™ve done Warped Tour once in the past. How has it now being a veteran and playing main stage? How is it to be a headliner after working so hard?
It'€™s surreal! It'€™s awesome being that it'€™s something that was started three years ago and in so short of a time. Going from playing our first show and three years later, playing Warped Tour on main stage. We'€™re the youngest band on the whole stage so it'€™s cool to kind of see everything we did in such a short amount of time getting us where we are.

You re-issued '€˜The Flood'€™ as a deluxe version of the record. Are you writing the next record?
Actually, Alan was writing last night. We all write. It'€™s really hard to write on the road but sometimes it just comes and ten minutes later, we'€™ll clear everybody out and work as a band. Times like that don'€™t work out too often especially on Warped Tour but we'€™ve started on it and the album that we'€™re re-issuing. The sound we have with that is a completely different thing then anything we'€™ve touched on before because we just wanted to have that chapter of '€˜The Flood'€™ be that chapter and have that area and that ink and that sound that we wanted there. And the next chapter will be completely different.

And I know it'€™s going to be your third record as a band. You'€™ve obviously gone through some changes and some rough times. Maybe what are you most looking forward to like with working on that record and being this group together?
I like that we get to take time on it. Our first record was something that we wrote in about three weeks. Our second record, well Al and I wrote basically like half of it. I started my own project and Alan and I wrote in his apartment when I was out of the band and then I joined back in the band and literally two days after he met the band, we were recording. So we took all the songs that we had from my solo project and we just put them on '€˜The Flood'€™ and that'€™s the album. So it'€™s cool that this time, we actually get to take time to work on it because we'€™ve never had time to work on an album. Even out of our forty songs that we had, I had literally like two days to record all of them and as a vocalist I like to record, then listen to it for a bit. Meditate on it, hear it, feel it then go back and change it and change it but I mean I hear songs from everything that we do and I want to change them all but that'€™s what new music'€™s for.

Then to maybe end it off, what is coming up after the Warped Tour? Are you going to maybe be focusing on that record? Are you guys planning on touring?
No, we'€™ll be on the road! We have three weeks off. I'€™ll be in LA for a week then I'€™m going to Costa Rica for two weeks. Then we have a co-headlining tour that I can'€™t tell you about.
Of course!
Then coming up right after that, we have another week off then we have another headliner in the UK and Europe which should be great. The last one we did was all sold out every day so we just moved into bigger venues and got even bigger support. I'€™m super stoked about it then after that we have three weeks off then we'€™re going to another country on a whole other continent but we can'€™t release it yet. We'€™re just on tour for the rest of the year but tour'€™s home. So it works out that way!
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Michelle Branch

My passion for music started when I was a pre-teen listening to the "mainstream" radio which at the time was really all I knew. Clearly I've broadened my horizons since then. With my music library shuffling between everything from noise rock duos to pop rock at its' poppiest, the classics still find their way in on occasion. Okay, more then on occasion. To me, one of those classic artists of my generation was Michelle Branch. Be it her solo work to her time in country duo The Wreckers to her collaborations with Santana, she always stood out in the steady stream of music that we listened to on car trips and on MTV!

While she may have stepped away from the spotlight these past few years, she is working on a new record 'West Coast Time'. While no longer flying solo, she does have a husband and child in tow, she is sure to regain the superstar stardom she once knew. For our interview, we sat down in a room off of the Goo Goo Dolls' vocal warm up and discussed everything from her new record to what she's been doing the past few years to how antsy and excited she is to be back on the road!

It's definitely been a while since you've been on the road but what are the three things you must have while on the road?
Oh wow! Um, the must haves have changed having my daughter out on tour. We try and make it like as normal and family life as possible during the day so we actually have a kitchen on our bus and the first thing we do is go to the grocery store and stock up. Just as much food as we can. What else do we have? A yoga mat! Me and the band do yoga we try to. Doesn't always happen and it's funny to see the boys do it then what's the last thing? And that would be counted as the incense I guess. We go through it like crazy!
And then I believe this is like your first major tour in a while.
Well, yeah it is! Actually it is my first like "tour" tour. I've been doing one offs for the last few years which has obviously been like the biggest tease because I'll have like three shows with some one and then I'm like 'Okay, that was fun I'm going home now' but yeah it's nice to be back out on the road again. It takes a while to get back in the rhythms especially now because having my daughter out- it's just a million different things pulling my attention in different directions. I think it must be the same for any working mom. You have the things you're supposed to do and things you want to do. Some days you get all of it done and some days you don't but it's a definite balancing act.
Sure! How has it been to be back on the road. I mean I was right behind the girls with the signs.
Sorry then (laughs)!
No, it was funny! Clearly, you still have those fans that have like stuck with you this whole time even though maybe you haven't been playing as much. How has it been to be back on the road and playing these shows?
It's weird because, in a sense, it feels like I haven't left in the grand scheme of things because I have been working this whole time then I sit back and go 'Oh yeah you're right I can't remember the last time I was here'. It's like how many years ago was that? So I definitely have my insecurities and I'm like Okay are people going to show up? Are people going to like it? Will people know the songs and it's just the same I'm sure as any other artist. You just wonder like if people are actually going to come!
That's what's the best part of being on a opening spot. It's a relief just because of you not having to worry about if I'm having my own show if people are going to show up or not. You kind of just get to relax.
And then 'Hotel Paper' was the last solo Michelle Branch record, right? I know you had The Wreckers' record but that was your last solo. Maybe how do you think it actually helped you with putting out the new record this fall?
In a way, I feel like doing a record just really gave me the chance to grow up a lot and having found success so young in age I think people were just, when I say people I mean people at the label, completely content to keep on shelling out the same kind of songs over and over and that's why I did The Wreckers. To kind of get a different perspective away from that and some time to just do an album because I liked music. So yeah, it's kind of given me this fresh start and it's going to be really interesting to see how people react once, you know, the album's out.
And do you think the songwriting has changed for you? Like as a singer-songwriter.
Yeah (laughs). I mean a lot of the songs that were on the first record especially were just kind of fictional songs. You're a writer so you know I would just conjure up different scenarios in my head and go maybe 'Oh this is what it's like' and have a little bit of experience on the subject but I mean what do you know at fifteen and now cut ahead to where I'm 28. Married and have a child and I've seen the world as opposed to wondering. So definitely, I think that it's changed!
And then the first single 'Loud Music' just came out a little while ago. What's the story behind that song as your first one out?
'Loud Music' is a song that is kind of like a homage of what my favorite records growing up were and it all started where Jim Irvin and Joe Emery and I were all writing and we came up with the line 'driving too fast is the definition'. And we were like wouldn't it be cool if we could hook that, put that hook from, 'Immigrant Song' in there and snuck the oh woah part in there. It was like 'Wait a minute, what other bands can we talk about' and that's kind of how the whole thing started. Was just the thought of like 'Wow, how would my life be different if I didn't find those records?' It changed my life.
Then obviously, like at the show tonight, people were into it and they knew the song. How has it been going over to like the fans? Is it a good indicator of what's to come on the record? I know it's hard to put it in boxes, it's no fun!
Yeah it's hard because of course like I am so excited for people to hear new songs and there were three new songs in the set tonight. There were three new songs in the set tonight and that's a lot for an opener slot so I know like some nights I'll take one out and put an old one back in and play with it a bit. It's hard when you're opening up for some one and especially when we're trying a new format where we're not playing with a drummer. So we have nights that like are dependent on audiences. Honestly it's more based on the venue. Like if people are closer to the stage and standing, it tends to be better but like stadium style seating isn't so great because no one wants to stand up so it's just different every night.
Then how did the recording process go for 'West Coast Time'?
It went really, really well. I went to London to record half the record which is something that I've been wanting to do for a while and it was just so nice. Like I definitely am very affected by whatever environment I'm in so being there and being so far away from home changed my writing a lot and it changed just the sounds that I was playing with. Then the producers coming from England, they had a completely different background so it was definitely something where thye pushed me a little bit in certain ways and I pushed back in different ways.
Then maybe obviously you've toured with records when you were younger and fifteen I think you said when 'Everywhere' came out. So maybe what's the most familiar sounding song on this record for past fans and then most out of left field?
I would say the most familiar is 'Loud Music' and that's probably why it was used as the first single. It's definitely a kind of like just straight ahead pop song. So I would say that's probably the most similiar. There are a few songs on the record that are really different from anything that I've done. One is a song called "Master Mind" and it was produced by a guy named Mike Hellazondo who has a really amazing background of working with a lot of urban artists like Dr. Dre. So not like mine at all but he was an amazing musician and I kind of wanted to make kind of a pride song like with spaghetti western guitars and that type of thing. So it's definitely different and my brother, my older brother, loves that song and that's a good indicator because he doesn't listen to the same kind of music I do and he's like 'When can you email me that song?' So, we'll see!
Perfect and then I actually spoke to Tyler Hilton last year and he said he has written with you a little bit you guys have messed around and then obviously you've collaborated with Santana. So who would be like your dream writing partner?
That's a good question. I am so obsessed with Jack White and I recently was on a flight with him by chance from LA to Nashville and I literally like sat there and was like 'Oh god I can't listen to his music while he's sitting next to me' but I would love to like one day make kind of a more rock record and I would love to see what he would come up. Like that would be my dream.
Great, then these to end it off, are bringing it back a little bit. The first CD or cassette you bought and then the first concert you went to?
Yes! Well, I remember the first record I actually bought so even further and it's embarassingly enough. It was Pebbles' 'Mercedes Boy' or single for 'If You Want To Ride My Mercedes Boy', that was it! And then I got the Beatles 'Love Songs' compilation in the same setting so it balanced out.
Then those experiences, like the first concert and everything, do you think that really influenced you maybe just as a person or your style?
They definitely, I think, I remember the excitement of it all and still whenever I see people who I really, really love live I still have moments where I kind of drift off and just 'Oh my god I can't believe it!' You know I'm a big fan. Fan. Music fan first. That's why I'm here. So I definitely still have fan moments. There was a moment when I got to see Neil Young play in Hong Kong and no one spoke English and then he went out and played and everyone sang every word and I was just like 'Life is so great right now. How am I standing here right now?' So I just love music.
Perfect and then I know you said that you are touring in the fall or you plan on it? Are you going to be back touring?
I will be doing a headlining club tour in October/November which I'm really excited about. I don't know who I'm bringing out with me yet we're still trying to figure out what openers there are that I want to bring out but I'm really excited to get back to them. I would say clubs are my favorite places to play. I'm looking around the audience, seeing like the girls with signs here and there and go 'Well okay if we were all in a small room, it would be really high energy'.
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Glamour Of The Kill

No one can deny the insane amount of buzz that is surrounding British imports here in the US this past year. While it was happening in the past few years to be exact, it's this year where it's not only in mainstream with boy bands like The Wanted and One Direction but it's even crossing into indie singer/songwriter types like Passenger, Frank Turner and Ed Sheeran! One area that it's always been happening in is heavy metal, nu-metal, you name it heavy music. I recently caught one of these acts Glamour In The Kill on their first US run ever, in fact their second ever US tour date!

I got the unique opportunity to speak to lead vocalist Davey of the project who after success in UK was seemingly incredibly excited to dip his toes in to what the fans in America have to offer. While not only playing stages across the states, they also are in the midst of working on their next studio record with acclaimed producer Joey Sturgis who has produced some of the most well recieved metal records in modern day music. It's only obvious that this band is meant for success and will be hitting the grindstone for it!

Obviously, this tour started last night and the record just came out here in the US in the beginning of the month. So since you're touring, what are the three things you must have while on the road to survive?
Must haves? My bass guitar (laughs), my voice and probably money.
Yeah (laughs)! But yeah, definitely I think the passport is a big part. Add the passport and I really don't need much anything else.

Then obviously the tour just started last night but you were in New York City which is a huge market. How did that show go and what do you think is going to be the best part and the hardest part of this tour?
Last night was amazing! It's only our first US tour so it was awesome to play New York City on the first day we had ever been to the states. The crowds were amazing. Like they made us feel so welcome and it was just surreal. In my head I was like 'What's going on? Why am I here?' but that night it was incredible. We feel so lucky to be a part of this tour. I think the hardest part is probably just staying well because we drink quite a bit. So I think we've just got to have our vitamins.
Then speaking of your first tour, as I've seen, it's kind of hard for a lot of British bands to grow here but you do have ones that are kind of at the top like Bring Me The Horizon, Asking Alexandria. Maybe was there any advice that you got from other bands who have toured here before?
I think it's just to smash it! Give it everything you've got I mean we're good friends with Bullet For My Valentine as well and Mike our guitarist is just starting a side project actually with Matock and Liam from Cancer Bats and Matock just said give it everything you've got. Give it a hundred and ten percent every night and that's what we're doing, you know. Is just smashing it! That's the best thing to do.
Then are kids knowing the words at all?
Yeah, definitely!
They already know all the words?
Yeah, which has been amazing like the album came out October the second. We playing New York and there were so many people who knew the words. We went and hung out at the merch table after the show and people knew us. It was really crazy (laughs).
They already know who you are maybe from past listening of the band?
Which is awesome!
And I know while it did just drop here just over a week ago I think but it did come out previously in the UK. Are you working on the new one, are you writing or are you still going to hold off a bit?
Well, actually, yeah, the album came out in January of last year in the UK. We signed to EOne entertainment in the US. It was actually a soft release really. We didn't want to push it too much. We actually have the new album fully written and this tour finishes up on the seventh. We go into the studio with Joey Sturgis on November the 8th and record the new album.
He's worked with so many people.
Yeah, yeah! So we're really excited like he did Asking and We Came As Romans and stuff. So I'm really excited. It should be great.
And do you think it's, to you as the singer of this band, sonically already changing from what kids are hearing now or is it pretty similiar?
Oh, it's a complete step up! I mean as a band we've always said every album needs to be better then the one before. You see so many bands that release an amazing debut and the second album's not so good or the third album is not so good. I think with us, we always try to push to make every album we release the best one that everyone's ever heard you know. So each one is just a step up. It's just an example of how much we've come on as a band and how much older we are. So I'm really excited for this new record.
And how does the band typically go about the songwriting process? Is it just one person or is it more collaborative?
I mean we all get together and write. Obviously we have different ideas and we have different influences and I think the sound that we have is just all our influences. The thing about Glamour of the Kill is we're not afraid to write a really heavy part and then go into like a melodic singing catchy part. Especially with my voice. My voice can get really high. A lot of people wouldn't put my voice with the kind of music we play but I think it seems to fit well and it stands out so it's good. People like it (laughs)!
And then a soft one! Do you remember the first CD or cassette you ever bought as a kid? Then the first concert you ever went to?
The first records? I can't remember the first record I ever bought but I will always remember the first record I ever heard. I went into my dad's garage and I found loads of records like LP's. I found this record, loved the artwork and went in, put it on the record player and it was just like 'This is it.' I think that pretty much changed the way I felt about music. That was pretty much one of the heaviest albums I heard at that point in my life which kind of lead onto a few different things but I think the first show I ever went to one of those shitty little shows in my hometown. Like ska bands and punk pop bands. But it was when like Reel Big Fish were huge and things like that. I honestly can't remember what my first big show was, probably something like Sum 41 (laughs).
Sum 41?
Yeah! I used to love like pop punk and stuff. I still do!
Maybe then to end it off, like you said, this is your first US tour ever despite being a band for a little bit of time now. Are you planning to come back pretty quickly? Are you going to just see how this run goes?
Well, we're looking to! We have got good people behind us like the Artery Foundation and a booking agent and a really cool label behind us. So I think we're going to head into the studio, get this record laid down and probably try to release it in April/May and trying to come back as soon as possible. Probably something in the summer. I really want to do Warped so (laughs) I guess we're just going to see what happens! I'm excited. Really excited to get into this new album and excited for the things that are going to come after!
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Side projects are one of my favorite things in the music industry. One of those projects that I recently got to take in live? Vacationer, the indie buzz band that no one can get off the tips of their tongues. What's great about this band in particular alike to Ryan Gosling's project Dead Man's Bones amongst others is that it's a partially well kept secret that the front man just happens to front some pop punk band you may know from the past called The Starting Line. It's best though to not realize that until you take in a live show from Vacationer. It is something completely different and beautiful on its' own. A friend even mentioned a few days later that she had no idea that it was the same singer despite talking to Kenny and buying a record from him when he was working merch post set. She wanted to buy the CD purely because of how blown away she was by the bands' performance!

First say your name and your role in Vacationer.
Yeah, okay! I'€™m Kenny and I play bass and sing in Vacationer. I play guitar on the record too.

Then maybe a soft one to start off. Obviously you do your fair share of touring with this band. What are like three things you must have while on the road to survive?
The three things I must have on the road?! I like my pillow but I lost it on the last tour so I don'€™t know if I'€™m going to trust myself to bring another one. What do I like? I like my music collection. It'€™s important! Then the third thing. Pencil and pad or pen and pad. Either one will work but it'€™s good to have something as an outlet to rub your brain out onto something.

Then maybe how has it been headlining? In comparison to opening for other people?
We really haven'€™t headlined too much. Have we done anything that'€™s headlining? I think that this is it. I want to say we'€™ve headlined like one or two other shows but they'€™ve been in really off places or really small cities like when we'€™re trying to fill dates on tour and those are usually pretty cool. They are usually something where local bands will help to bring people out. What'€™s the word? I guess it'€™s a little bit touch and go because we really haven'€™t done it yet. We'€™re trying to make our way out there and make more of a presence and trying to see who are our fans.

Considering, like I said, it'€™s kind of under wraps, how did the band come to be as Vacationer?
Well, a couple years ago, I wanted to do something in the electronic world. I wanted to have some sort of project that I could set up kind of simply at shows. Just with electronic backing and maybe just play guitar and sing over top of it. I started making music with these guys Matt and Grant who are in a band called Body Language. Because I heard their band and I really liked it and they do some production. I met with them after never meeting them before. We just went straight into a session and started writing some stuff and it went really well. I went up there again and we doubled our production. It just really flowed well from the get go and then the more we started writing music together and the further along we got with making our record, they convinced me that I needed to have a full band and then needed to really go all out with this. Not just have it be some sort of little side project that I do. Try to stand in front of a computer and try to look cool. They were totally right because the electronics is really just the start to it. It'€™s just a bed for it because it'€™s really interesting. Meaning the world of like hybrid electronic indie music that has full band elements and also electronic equipment. That'€™s how it started! So, we did that the summer of 2010 and then by the next year, we pretty much had the record done.

And even though it has only been out since March, it is a new project. Are you working on new music or do you think that'€™s going to be a while?
Yeah, they'€™ve been sending me lots of stuff. They'€™ve been wanting to get the ball rolling and I'€™ve been working every day. Like building off of that. Really, just in the past few weeks, it'€™s picked up as far as new material goes. Yeah, nothing totally complete yet but we'€™re trying to get enough songs and enough ideas together so I can go up there and have a session with them. After that, I think the production system will be moving a lot quicker.

So that'€™s something where they don'€™t tour with you, you have like a different band live?
Well, Matt is one of the producers and he'€™s going to be playing vibraphone and singing with us today. It'€™s tough because he'€™s in Body Language and they'€™re pretty active too. So the next couple headlining shows, he won'€™t be with us and when we go out on Bombay he'€™s not going to be able to go. Anytime that he can came out with us though he tries to and always enjoys himself and we always enjoy having him. He'€™s such a force!
Force to be reckoned with!
Yeah definitely!

And then obviously this is a bit different from the other bands that you have been a part of. Do you think that time spent with those bands has helped you as an artist in doing something very different?
Oh, yeah absolutely! I mean that'€™s how I really cut my teeth. From being in those bands. I was never really traditionally schooled in music. I just really came from the streets (laughs). So anything I'€™ve learned has just been by trial by fire and just putting my hands on instruments and trying to pretend to sing like people I like and I'€™m glad that I'€™ve had the experiences I'€™ve had to go and work with these guys because they went to school for music. To be able to hang with them, it'€™s a good feeling I'€™d say that they even were willing to bring me in and have me collaborate with them and I'€™m glad that it'€™s gone so swimmingly.

Then those two (Matt and Grant) may be your dream collaboration but is there anyone that pops to mind for you?
I mean there'€™s lots of people. It would just be ridiculous dream stuff. Like, I mean because I'€™m so happy working with them I wouldn'€™t really be quick to work with another producer because they have it so down and I love the dynamic. I like that we can work in both production and songwriting together but if they were willing to bring someone in or just go to someone else like that, I would love to work with like James Murphy. Or like David Byrne or Thom Yorke. Just people that have been going on tour doing what I do.

Then a little softer one! Do you remember the first CD or first cassette you ever remember buying and the first concert?
Oh, man! The first cassette was, this is so embarrassing, something where I heard this song and I was like '€™Oh I like that song!'€™. I must have been like seven or eight but it was Doctor Feel Good by Motley Crue (laughs) and that couldn'€™t be further from what I do. Even maybe three months later, I was like '€™This is a little bit not good'€™ but after that, pretty soon after that, it was Nirvana '€œNevermind'€ and then I remember '€™Fields of Gold'€™ Sting was another cassette I had and then when I started learning bass. The first cassette that I brought into him was AC/DC'€™s '€œHighway to Hell'€ and I was just like '€™Can you show me '€™If You Want Blood'€™? Can you just show me the bass line to it?'€™. He was like '€™No, no, no! We'€™re going to learn the whole thing. This guy was like a whole rock and roll guy through and through. I was just like '€™Oh I saw this song in Empire Records'€™. So first record I learned on bass was '€œHighway To Hell'€.

Is that how you like first got interested in music? You were just being taught these things?
Yeah! I just thought bands were cool. I thought Green Day was like the coolest thing in the world. I guess I was just a slave of Nirvana and Green Day when I was eight, nine years old. Then I started playing bass!

Because you'€™re still pretty young even though you'€™ve been playing music for a really long time.
I'€™m 28, yeah!
Still young!
I mean in the grand scheme, yeah.

Perfect then what is coming up? Obviously we talked about that time with Bombay and I know you personally are doing Starting Line shows at the end of the year but what is coming up in particular for this project? Are you going to be writing more, touring?
Well, we'€™re going to be touring all through October with Bombay then right after that we'€™re going over to Iceland to do Iceland Airwaves. Yeah, I know it'€™s crazy.
How did you get on that?
It'€™s really, really nuts! Yeah it'€™s Sigur Ros and Dirty Projectors and Phantogram and all these really, really good bands. I don'€™t understand how it happened.
Especially being such a new project.
Yeah, we'€™re really, really blessed to get to do that. And then after that, we don'€™t have anything else in the books at the time being as far as shows go for Vacationer but I think I'€™m going to take that time through November to work on music. I think we'€™ll rehearse a handful of times for those shows and then I'€™ll be trying to get together all the ideas for Vacationer and try to get some new songs.
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Craig Owens

I hate to admit that I see this interview as a "lost interview". While thinking about not posting it due to current situations, I think that it deserves to have some light on it. Craig Owens has definitely been through the wringer in this music industry. The band that he currently finds himself back in was with out him for several years after being one of the founding members for ten years. While not in Chiodos, he did, still does have solo music as well as being the founding member of D.R.U.G.S. whom we did this interview for!

He was an excellent, low key interview for some one who has such fan insanity about himself. It was, still is clear how much passion he has for music and it is encouraging to see. He's one of the front men who stands out amongst the majority and is sure to have been seen by the majority of readers at one point in his career if not multiple times! As of now, D.R.U.G.S. is still on. Seemingly on the back burner but the band was touring as recently as February of this year!

You'€™ve had this project in the works for a long time now.
D.R.U.G.S. has been in the making for a while. You have this first full length out. Are you recording or writing?
You know the concept for it came around two years ago. We finally started writing and then the first record came out in February so the record'€™s really only nine months old something like that. We do live in a world where it'€™s instant gratification and it'€™s almost like kids go through or people go through music like it'€™s nothing. It usually takes a band one or two years to release a record however yes we are in the process of writing and hope to have it come out early next year but don'€™t quote me on it in case things come up in the process.

Perfect and then you all came from bands where you all had a strong hand in the writing. So how has that come together as a band now?
It'€™s been pretty good! I mean we all have the same vision you know and that'€™s to write the best song as possible. I think one of the best parts'€™ about being a good leader which all of us were is to make sacrifices when necessary for the better of the group and I think that all of us have done a very successful job at doing that.

And then you'€™ve been touring constantly! We talked to Aaron and Nick at AP tour and then Nick himself at Warped Tour but obviously you'€™ve been touring what feels like non-stop.
Kind of non-stop!
You'€™ve had your breaks but you'€™ve done Warped Tour, AP Tour, that first tour with Eyes Set To Kill.
Yeah, this is technically our third US tour. We haven'€™t even been touring a year yet which is pretty crazy to think about and we'€™re just very thankful. Very, very thankful. Being the people in our situation who are being offered second chances. The fact that we'€™ve come together and bring something all different and we'€™re all so passionate. That also connects with quite a lot of people. It'€™s just truly, truly a large blessing so we'€™re very, very thankful.

Then I know this is a project that you thought of in your head and you have all the other members that slowly joined after one another. Were you friends in the past or people maybe you admired?
Matt has been one of my very best friends for a very long time. Aaron was one of my friends for a long time after touring. I toured with Nick and finally met him on Warped Tour in 2003 or 2005, one of those years and then Aaron and I toured together in 2005 so I think Nick and I met in 2003 and Matt and I had toured many times together and I never had met Adam before in my life. He came into the studio, we were introduced to each other by John Feldman and we just hit it off. We had the same goals and the same drive and we liked the same kind of music and we had the same roots so it all clicked and everyone had an awesome personality. It was a lot less boy band as well. It'€™s just very fortunate. I wanted to make sure because this is my go at it. I wasn'€™t about to do it the wrong way and I wasn'€™t about to jump into something very quickly. I wanted to make sure that all the pieces fit and you'€™re only as strong as your weakest link so I wanted to make sure I had none.

No weak links at all. Then you'€™ve been doing this for so long obviously with your past band Chiodos and then doing this. How has this been? Like having D.R.U.G.S. catch on so quickly with all the fans and everyone being really happy about it?
It'€™s amazing. Like I said, I don'€™t think that a lot of people really get what we'€™ve been given and I think that this year is just something that shows that I'€™m not going anywhere. We came together, we formed this and it caught on because I think that a lot of people can relate to my lyrics. A lot of people enjoy it and the best part about it is doing it the right way this time. Coming up and being thankful and not taking any moment for granted. Like I said, we do all feel truly blessed to be where we are and we know that this has come very quickly but we still have something to prove and we still have a long way to go and we look forward to doing that and showing the world what we are capable of.

Perfect then a little soft one to end it off! What was the first CD or cassette you ever remember buying and the first concert you remember going to?
Oh my gosh! The first concert is actually like super cred.
Oh really? It'€™s like actually legit.
It was Murder City Devils besides like local shows but that was my first real show at St. Andrews Hall in Detroit where I'€™m from and as far as first cassette or CD that I ever bought, I'€™m pretty sure it was Weezer'€™s '€™Blue'€™ album. If it wasn'€™t Weezer, it might have been Offspring. I know it was that era.

Then you said the show is still like the music you'€™re doing today so maybe that influenced you obviously. Maybe did those CD'€™s influence you, maybe as you personally as Craig?
Noooo! Maybe sub consciously. I mean I wouldn'€™t say that Weezer and Offspring really was the reason that I play music. The real change in my life was that I wanted to do musical theater and then a group of friends in early high school of mine introduced me to all this new music that was a bit more underground then Offspring and Weezer were at the time. Because they were kind of mainstream at that point in their careers and then we formed a band together and that band was Chiodos.
It'€™s definitely been a long time!
Yeah, it'€™s been a long time but a lot of people don'€™t realize that a lot of the Chiodos stuff was written when I was like seventeen years old.
When you were really young.
Yeah exactly so when I was younger. I mean I'€™m still young.

Then maybe, since you'€™ve been doing this for so long, what'€™s like the biggest life lesson you'€™ve learned?
I don'€™t know if I could sum it up into one thing.
Maybe one of the first big ones you learned.
For myself?
For yourself.
For musicians?
For aspiring musicians.
As far as musicians, be nice to everybody and just don'€™t take anything for granted. You'€™re not going to end up being better then everybody and you probably won'€™t be doing this when you'€™re fifty or sixty years old so just make sure you enjoy it. Don'€™t take yourself too seriously and be thankful for every single individual that you reach out to because you really are changing lives whether you accept it or not so make sure that you'€™re in control of your own.

Perfect then to end it off, you obviously talked about writing. I'€™m not going to quote you on it because you don'€™t want to say things but what is going to be coming up? Do you think you'€™re going to continue touring a lot or maybe take a breather?
No, we'€™re booked until the summer so we have a tour that'€™s going to be announced very, very soon and then there are more tours after that that are booked and ready to go! The kids are going to be really excited! I'€™ll just continue to be sending the message and continuing to reprove myself. It'€™s been really fun on this tour because I believe a lot of the Asking fans, a lot of the We Came As Romans fans, all those kids I think are very aware of who we are and what we do. I think it'€™s really awesome to get in front of them and remind them just what it is that we do and win them back over as a band because it is a new band.
It is a challenge because you are like you said a new band. Maybe the fans from the old bands will have to be won over again.
It'€™s very difficult to recreate. The reason a lot of people listen to bands is because they'€™re attached to it and have the sing alongs in cars and stuff like that. Very difficult to do that and as long as we continue to remain genuine, passionate and we go out there and kill it every night, you'€™re not going to ease into a void of wasting. We'€™re going to be around for a while!
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